Not everyone wants money from Thunder Bay City Council. Two groups who attended the budget consultation session Tuesday night urged council to consider low income residents. A recent widow told of how her rent is going up because of the proposed increases to water rates and property taxes. Sandra Taggart says she's not looking for sympathy, just empathy from council. Poverty Free Thunder Bay says the 2011 budget could have positive impacts on low income residents but the city needs to remove barriers that might hinder residents from benefiting from city initiatives and services.